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ChandlerW



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: Help restoring windows Reply with quote

I have a house that I am trying to fix up. Its not quite historical, probably from the 50's. It has double hung windows in sad shape.
I would like to repair the windows with the original parts.
The parts I need are the metal parting beads and the spring strips for the meeting rail and lower sash.
I'm having a little trouble finding original parts.
At the meeting rail there is a spring loaded part.
I've attached some pictures of the challenge I'm dealing with.
Any help with this project is sure appreciated!



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chandler, welcome to the Forum!

As you disassemble the window and get access to these hardware parts, look for any inscriptions that show the name of the product, the manufacturer, or patent numbers. Then post the info here and we'll help you find parts.

Disassemble carefully, without damaging the parts, as you may have to repair and reuse them.

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ChandlerW



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replying. I think the most difficult part I'm going to have is finding the metal parting bead. I've attached a picture of the parting bead. If anyone knows where to buy this please let me know.
There are no manufacturer marks on the window frame or case. Nothing to identify who made it. I'll check other cases to see if I can find anything.



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johnleeke
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check with Blaine:

www.blainewindow.com/
Find Window Replacement Parts at Blaine Window Hardware.
3700 W North Ave, Stone Park, IL 60165
(708) 345-8400

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be wrong, but this appears to be a 1950's configuration.
If the galvanized parting bead is not available, consider shaving down a conventional wood parting bead down to 3/8". Bed it with adhesive caulk such as DAP Duraflex 230 and nail it to the jamb.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a groove in the jamb, underneath the metal strip? If so, you might be able to convert to an ordinary wood parting bead that fits in the groove. It might take a parting bead with a special profile that matches the metal one, but this could be easier to make than finding exact replacement parts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No groove under the parting bead. I'll give a wooden parting bead a try.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll give a wooden parting bead a try.


It may be necessary to match the profile of the metal parting bead because the sashes may be specially shaped to work with that profile.

Is the metal parting bead also a part of the sash balance system, for example, is there a spring or cords and tiny pulleys inside the metal bead? If so, you may have to come up with an alternate balance system.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry. I was wrong about the groove. There is a groove behind the parting bead. On the larger windows there is no grove.
The parting bead itself seems to be a 2 piece assembly.
The meeting rail angle doesn't seem to be anything special. Looks like a 90 degree corner to me.

The parting bead doesnt have any springs. The sashes take a spring balance.
I know these are not historic windows but they are pretty old and I am learning something from them.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a wood parting bead would work. It should be simple table saw work to make them. Use straight-grained wood with no knots.
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