Historic HomeWorks Forum

Bron · Joined: 14 Dec 2010 Posts: 6 Location: NW Indiana

John,

I think I'm more concerned with "messing" up the edge of the putty knife; I'm going to have to hide this new one, as the last good one wandered off to somebodies scraping project. Took some time to get a nice polish on it.

johnleeke · Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject:

johnleeke · Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:14 am Post subject:

I usually don't recommend buying at the greedy corporate owned big box stores, but Lowes is now listing the spade point at their website:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_58230-37672-532440_0__?productId=3036053

johnleeke · Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:56 pm Post subject:

Diamond Clipper point pusher.

Made by the Fletcher-Terry Co. from about the 1950s to the 1970s.
I first heard about this device in 2005 when I was training some homeowners and tradespeople in Brookings, South Dakota. One of the trainees told us about it and made a rough sketch of it. She had used it as a girl when she was working in a framing shop.
I learned the name of it from Bud, the old gent who repaired point drivers at Fletcher-Terry Co. in Massachusetts (back in 2006, when Fletcher-Terry was a responsible manufacturer of window tools).
I set up an auto-search on eBay for it, and after 7 years it finally showed up and I got this one.
It takes a stack of no. 1 points and neatly sets each point into the neck of the glazing rabbet with a push, setting the point slightly off the glass. It's all metal construction and is light-weight. While it is well made it seems somewhat fragile, mainly because of the spring that loops up and then down to press on the stack of points. I think it will take a special box or holster to protect it my tool kit.
I plan to keep it in my "pocket kit" that I take on up on ladders for spot repairs like small pane replacement, or in my "onsite" glazing kit.

woodturner · Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:58 am Post subject:

johnleeke · Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:06 am Post subject:

Thanks for the update on these suppliers. Just goes to show that the greedy corporations in the consumer economy don't care about anything other than getting your money.

mhead110 · Joined: 31 May 2009 Posts: 3

Hi, I'm in the middle of a big glazing project and I just went on Ebay looking for the Fletcher Terry #5 driver,

--and got a trigger finger-- wound up bidding on a "CRL model PD5 point driver" which is the same color as the F-T-- and its ebay link came up when I clicked on John's Link!!

I wonder if anyone can advise me whether I should continue with this auction or try to retract the bid-- will this machine work with any 3/8" diamond points or only its own, and is it of the quality of the F-T?

Ebay tells me I can probably retract the bid, but talk to the seller first.

thanks,

and thanks John, always, for this forum and your generous advice.

johnleeke · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:58 pm Post subject:

This webpage:
http://www.technologylk.com/crl-universal-point-driver-lk-PD5.html
Suggests the PD5 takes two sizes of diamond points and one size of triangle points, BUT I don't have a PD5 on hand to check this.

Carefully examine the photos in your auction. If they show the top of the point magazine with its little "christmas tree" shaped hole, then it probably does take three sizes of diamond and triangle points.

In other respects the PD5 looks a lot line the PD9 described on the first page of this discussion. (you are now on the second page of this discussion). Here is the first page:
http://historichomeworks.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=531&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

mhead110 · Joined: 31 May 2009 Posts: 3

Thanks, John,

I had read the entire thread; there's always so much good info shared, but I didn't see my questions addressed thus far.

Since this is the CRL PD5, I'm sure it will take multiple sizes of CRL points, but my questions were:

1) will this machine work with any 3/8" diamond points or only its own,

(I already have lots of F-T 3/8" points, but have not had much luck inserting them by hand, hence my looking for a machine-- and the FT "Pushmate" seems a joke-- the little tails on it stick out so much that you can only push the diamond in by about 1/16". I'm not clear on the concept of the "tails" -- even using the conventional, modern 3-d points, the tails create a gap between the part of the points that sticks up along the muntin, perpendicular to the glass, & the wood. Strange.

BTW, FYI, I just talked to a rep from Fletcher Terry who tells me, yes, their diamond points will work with the CR Lawrence machine. He further said that those points were only designed to go 1/8" into the wood, so the Pushmate is doing what is expected. Still seems weird to me.

and 2) (does anyone have experience with it to know if) the quality of the CRL machine is as good as the Fletcher-Terry # 5 of which you are so fond?

I guess I'll give it a try, since the FT 5 doesn't come up often. My lites are so small (12 over 12) that I'll only be able to use the machine in the vertical direction, but it will still save a lot of work. maybe it will work on a slight diagonal for the side points?

alexis

johnleeke · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject:

johnleeke · Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:26 pm Post subject:

The glazing points discussion continues over here at the new Save America's Windows website forum:

http://saveamericaswindows.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6